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Date: Tue,  5 Apr 94 14:36:29 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Tue,  5 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  379

Today's Topics:
                                  73
                  Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended
                        ARRL Strange Proposals
                         ARRL Wrong Proposals
                   Commercial Service in 10M Band?
                         HAM ON BIKE (2 msgs)
                    IPS Monthly Report -  March 94
                     License Time For 1a Element?

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Date: 5 Apr 94 06:24:02 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!idmb-secretary.tamu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 73
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David R Tucker)
wrote:

> people prefer "iced water"?  (My wife drinks "ice water", which is
> terribly illogical - how can a liquid be a solid?  and if it is, how
> do you drink ice?

Simple, the freezing point of water (32 F or 0 C) is the point where the
solid and liquid form can co-exist, therefore, "ice water" is water at
exactly the freezing point :)

Pedantically yours,
Troyce
KC5CBI

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Date: 5 Apr 94 19:14:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!abercrombie.Stanford.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Gary McDuffie Sr) writes:

>I still see no reason whatsoever for the first BBS to be held
>accountable. It makes no sense at all. Why should anyone, other than
>the originator, be held accountable for his actions? He wrote it, he
>should take the lumps for it. If he uses someone else's call, track
>him down, like any other mode.

Note that in the Press Release, accountability of the first hop is only
required if the originating station is not authenticated.  Now, what will
constitute proper authentication is a good question, and we'll have to see
the actual Part 97 wording change to see what this really means.


--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX |        "The Enemy of the Good is the Better."
->[e-mail]   |         -- Gen. William "Wild Bill" Donovan

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Date: 5 Apr 94 22:58:20 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ARRL Strange Proposals
To: [e-mail]

TO : The DXCC Commitee
     The DXAC Commitee
     The ARRL
     All Hams



Gentlemen,

Following our previous message, we cannot avoid writing this second one, for
the very simple reason, that yesterday one of us received the January issue
of the QST magazine.

In this issue, we noticed an article about the Peter I Island.

Gentlemen of the ARRL, DXCC and DXAC commitees, you must have a very strange
way of deciding which countries you are going to put in your DXCC list. From
what we read in that article (and if our English are not that poor), it is
obvious that you went too far, to include the Peter I island in your list,
before even someone had requested it.

Now the Peter I Island is a deserted part of land, with no permanent population
with only birds, fog and ice being its permanent residents. YOU GENTLEMEN
included this God-forgotten place in your DXCC list.

On the other hand, someone from your organization, is proposing to you to
delete Mt. Athos. A populated area, with at least one licensed radio amateur,
living permanently in the area.

We must say gentlemen, we admire your sense of humour. Because if this proposal
wasn't made, just because its originator had a lot of humour, then one must
wonder what his real intentions were. We all wish we knew the name(s) of that
person in order to be able to contact him and find out what are his real
reasons for proposing the deletion of Mt Athos. They most surely had nothing
to do with the well-being of our hobby.

We will have to admit gentlemen, that it is either you that forgot the basic
principles of our hobby, or that all your advises printed in the books you
publish, are nothing but hot air (sorry, a four-letter word would be more
appropriate but our good manners forbid its usage).

We urge you to think again, before accepting such a proposal, which will
make you openly involved in politics.

LET'S KEEP AMATEUR RADIO AWAY FROM POLITICS

John Caradimas (SV1CEC)                 Dimitris Gavalas (SV1BTO)
49, Lomvardou Street                    47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens                          117-44, Athens
GREECE                                  GREECE


Danae Nika (SV1CIQ)                     Korina Sfakiotaki (SV1CDQ)
49, Lomvardou Street                    47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens                          117-44, Athens
GREECE


Dimitris Kaiafas (SV1BTW)
16, Manis Street
124-62, Athens
GREECE

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Date: 5 Apr 94 22:56:56 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ARRL Wrong Proposals
To: [e-mail]

To :    All Radio Amateurs
        The DXCC commitee
        The DXAC commitee



Gentlemen,

A recent "Proposed Vote for Schedule" has been announced by the DXAC
Chairman, which includes the topics of Mount Athos Deletion and acceptance
of the pseudo-state of the occupied part of Cyprus, in the DXCC list.

It is quite clear to us and probably to every greek radio amateur, that the
above proposal, sounds like a blackmail effort or a threat. It can easily be
translated to "make SV/A active again, or we delete it, and add the pseudo-
state instead", or even to "behave or you will be punished".

We would like to remind to Mr. Chairman, as well as any one else behind
these proposals, the followings :

- The pseudo-state that you propose to accept as a DXCC country has
resulted from the unprovoked invasion of the Turks military forces in Cyprus,
in 1974. It is therefore a result of a violent act, from one country against
another. Are you gentlemen of the DXAC commitee going to appraise
and encourage such acts, by proposals like the one mentioned above?

- Are you aware gentlemen, that the northern part of Cyprus is still -
since 1974- under armed occupation, by the Turkish Armed Forces and
that there are still homeless people, forced to abandon their properties
and home land? We very well remember that some years ago, when Iraq
invaded Kuwait, an international force was assembled to liberate the
occupied country. Of course, such a force was never assembled for
Cyprus, but then again, Cyprus is not producing any oil. This however
does not give you, or anybody else, the right to create a status quo, with
stupid proposals, like yours.

- The pseudo-state gentlemen, has not been recognized by any
international organization (like UN or EC) or by any other country, except
of course Turkey. Are you gentlement going to replace these
international organizations in their role, or your real intentions are to
exercize pressure to these organizations to recognize countries
according to your (hidden, possibly financial) wishes (or interests)? Also,
are you aware that there have been several appeals to the UN against Turkey,
and that Turkey has been condemned by the UN for its acts? Are you
encouraging Turkey's acts by your proposals?

- The DXAC, the DXCC and all other radio amateur organizations, as
well as radio amateurs themselves, have to stick to the rules of amateur
radio, as they are defined after years of ham activity. One of the most
basic rules of our hobby is that amateur radio stays clear of politics
or personal financial interests. How can it be then, that you are currently
taking part in a very old debate between Cyprus and Turkey? Is it
possible that financial reasons are behind your proposals?

- The Mount Athos gentlemen is not just a banch of "mounts". It is a holy
area of the Romanian, Yugoslavian, Russian, Bulgarian and Greek
churches, or even better put, of the whole Christian Orthodox world.
Mount Athos is entirely populated by monks, and Apollo is the only monk
in the whole world who is an active radio amateur (at least from what we
are aware of). When Apollo stopped its DX activities, a lot of hams
around the world complained and urge him to repeate them. Now
gentlemen, you are proposing the deletion of SV/A from the DXCC list.
Of course, this is not the first time that you are making such proposals,
maybe because you consider yourselves authorised to decide on
subjects affecting everybody in our hobby, without asking anybody's
opinion.

As far as we are concerned, dear fellow hams, we promise you that if these
proposals are ever voted, we will stop all DX activities, and will encourage
other Greek hams to do the same, so that the SV prefix becomes as rare as the
SV/A is today. Then again, the DXCC commitee might very well delete SV from
their list, but we certainly do not care to be part of a list created by
ignorant, politically influenced mappets.

The following radio amateurs are signing this message :

John Caradimas (SV1CEC)                         Dimitris Kaiafas (SV1BTW)
49, Lomvardou Street                            16, Manis Street
114-74, Athens                                  124-62, Chaidari, Athens
GREECE                                          GREECE

Danae Nika (SV1CIQ)                             Dimitris Gavalas (SV1BTO)
49 Lomvardou Street                             47, Kassomouli Street
114-74, Athens                                  117-44, Athens
GREECE                                          GREECE

Korina Sfakiotaki (SV1CDQ)
47 Kassomouli Street
117-44, Athens

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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:58:09 GMT
From: worldbank.org![e-mail]
Subject: Commercial Service in 10M Band?
To: [e-mail]

While reading this week's copy of Network World (dated March 28th), I noticed
on page 58 a table showing the comparisons between the various proposals for
global satellite communications. One which caught my eye was the proposal by
Bill Gates (a'ka Mr. Microsoft) and McCaw to use 840 (yep, 840) low-orbit
satellites using frequencies in the 28mHz range. This compared to Irridium (66
satellies in the 1.6 Ghz range), and Globestar (48 satellites in the 1.6 Ghz
range). Interesting proposal... but I doubt whether it would get approved by
the WARC.

-- Darrell NR3Y.

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Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 12:40:43 PDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!uhog.mit.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!toads.pgh.pa.us![e-mail]
Subject: HAM ON BIKE
To: [e-mail]

I'm trying to install a Kenwood 732A (UHF/VHF) Ham radio on my 86
Goldwing SEi.

I would like to intergrate it into the existing Honda intercom/radio
system if possible.

Any hints, tricks, traps.

J & M 's CF-400 (Universal Interface) ain't so universal.

fred (WB3CFI)

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Date: 5 Apr 1994 18:52:55 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!mbunix.mitre.org![e-mail]
Subject: HAM ON BIKE
To: [e-mail]

In article <2ns4t8$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I'm trying to install a Kenwood 732A (UHF/VHF) Ham radio on my 86
>Goldwing SEi.

Bummer, I had visions of a large hunk of smoked pork bungie corded to
a luggage rack.  Oh well...

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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 03:28:34 GMT
From: swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!gossip.pyramid.com!sword.eng.pyramid.com!pta.pyramid.com.au!warrane.connect.com.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!harbinger.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: IPS Monthly Report -  March 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS MONTHLY REPORT - MARCH 1994
ISSUED BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.

1.     SOLAR-GEOPHYSICAL INDICES

                 SOLAR  MAGNETIC      AUST
Day         10 cm flux   A-INDEX   T INDEX
March  01          094        10        47
March  02          098        17        73
March  03          101        18        64
March  04          098        03        46
March  05          096        06        76
March  06          096        10        89
March  07          091        37        62
March  08          091        38       -23
March  09          090        33         2
March  10          088        35        -8
March  11          088        29        25
March  12          093        27         6
March  13          090        21        -2
March  14          087        24        45
March  15          087        31        23
March  16          086        19         9
March  17          085        25         8
March  18          087        18        -6
March  19          089        14        43
March  20          089        10        47
March  21          091        22        25
March  22          091        17        18
March  23          092        15        57
March  24          093        18        60
March  25          091        12        44
March  26          089        09        61
March  27          088        09        64
March  28          088        09        63
March  29          086        06        61
March  30          086        09        54
March  31          085        05        10


              10 CM  FLUX  SUNSPOT    NUMBER  A  INDEX     AUST   FLARES
                                                         T  INDEX
                Monthly  Monthly    Yearly   Monthly     Monthly   >M1.0
Month           Average  Average   Average   Average     Average
March       94     90.5     31.7                17.5        36.9       0
February    94     99.5     35.9                22.5        38.0       2
January     94    115.0     58.8                12.4        60.2      11
December    93    104.9     49.4                10.4        56.4       8
November    93     95.8     34.8                11.7        50.0       3
October     93    100.2     55.4                11.6        31.3       3
September   93     86.3     21.7      48.2      12.3        33.6       2
August      93     93.7     42.0      52.1      11.0        48.7       1
July        93     99.0     57.3      54.4      10.6        59.6       4
June        93    109.4     49.1      55.8      13.0        62.6      13
May         93    112.4     61.2      59.6      11.0        64.3       5
April       93    115.5     61.9      63.4      15.7        77.7       3
March       93    136.6     70.5      66.5      18.9        81.5      13

IPS Predicted (Yearly Smoothed) Sunspot Numbers for October 1993-September 1994
Month         Oct  Nov  Dec  Jan  Feb  Mar  Apr  May  Jun  Jul  Aug  Sep
SSN          45.3 42.7 40.4 38.1 36.1 35.5 34.2 32.3 30.5 27.6 25.2 23.9
Latest T-Indices for IPS Advanced Stand-Alone Prediction System-(ASAPS)
Last update: February 1994 Solar-Geophysical Summary
Year    Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1988     45  42  58  74  72  84  84  95 115 133 117 128
1989    147 164 135 140 141 157 162 149 143 159 164 152
1990    150 128 135 129 126 137 136 137 141 136 122 132
1991    143 177 173 165 136 124 142 128 137 132 122 131
1992    153 173 157 136  97  81  88  67  69  68  85  90
1993     75  78  81  65  63  63  59  50  36  34  33 42*
1994    39* 37* 36* 35* 34* 31* 29* 27* 24* 22* 21* 19*
1995    19* 18* 17* 16* 15* 14* 14* 13* 12* 11* 11* 10*
1996    10*  9*  9*  8*  8*  7*  8*  8*  9* 10* 11* 12*
1997    13* 14* 16* 18* 20* 22* 25* 28* 32* 35* 40* 46*
Asterisk indicates predicted value.
For information concerning ASAPS for an IBM PC (or compatible) contact IPS.

The IPS Monthly T-index is derived from the observed monthly median values
of foF2 for each hour at up to 40 ionospheric stations worldwide.
These records become available from IPS stations in Australia very soon after
each month, but the majority are received up to one year later.
This means that the exact observed value of the monthly T-index is not
available until some months later.

The predicted smoothed monthly T-indices are computed by using a statistical
analysis of the observed monthly T-indices for all solar cycles since 1938.
The IPS T-indices may not be updated each month but only when sufficient new
data becomes available.
===============================================================================
2.     FLARES AND SHORT-WAVE FADEOUTS

All M flares with an energy greater than or equal to M1 are tabulated under
class M flares.
However, times of fade-outs are shown only for flares with an energy greater
than X-ray class M3.

DATE           CLASS M   CLASS X         FADEOUT POSSIBLE
                FLARES    FLARES      ON DAYLIGHT CIRCUIT
NO FLARES.

2.1     Comments on Solar Activity.
Solar activity was at very low to low levels throughout the month.
March 94 is the first month since June 87 where no M or X class
flares have been observed.

The daily 10cm flux again showed little variation throughout the month.
The peak value for the month was 101 on March 3. The
minimum value for the month was 85, which was observed on March 17 and 31.
===============================================================================
3.     GEOMAGNETIC DISTURBANCES              (for Learmonth, WA)
DATE                     COMMENTS

March 3                  A period of minor storm levels occurred 09-12UT.

March 7-18               Active to minor storm levels were regularly observed
                         from March 7-12. Unsettled to active levels were then
    observed March 13-18, with isolated minor storm
    periods on March 15 and 17.

March 21-24              After subsiding over March 19-20, geomagnetic activity
    picked up again from March 21-24, with unsettled to
    active levels. This activity was associated with
                         a long lived recurrent disturbance pattern.

March 25                 A period of minor storm levels occurred 15-18UT.


3.1     Comments on Geomagnetic Activity.
A recurrent pattern of geomagnetic activity appears to be emerging in
association with the lengthy disturbances observed in February and March.
Based on this pattern, significant levels of activity can be expected at times
during the period April 3 - April 14. The highest A index for the month was
38, recorded on March 8.

===============================================================================
4.     IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCES              (for Sydney)
DATE                MUFs

March 7-13          Depressions of 15-40% were regularly observed during local
                    daylight hours over this period, with occasional night-time
      Spread F. F2 layer critical frequencies were regularly
      observed to drop below F1 layer critical frequencies in
      the local morning during this time.

March 15-16         Depressions of 15-30% were observed 15/18 - 16/03UT.

March 17-18         Depressions of 15-40% were observed 17/18 - 18/16UT.
                    Night-time Spread F was also noted on both days.

March 21-22         Depressions of 15-25% were observed 21/21 - 22/10UT.
                    Night-time Spread F was noted on March 22.

March 31            Depressions of 15-20% were observed througout the day.


4.1     Comments on Ionospheric Conditions.
Frequencies were regularly enhanced relative to predicted monthly values up
until March 7, and from March 23 onwards.
The most significant depressions occurred on March 8-10, March 13 and March 18.
===============================================================================
5.     IPS WARNINGS AND ALERTS ISSUED

WARNINGS:
NO    ISSUE TIME  ISSUE DATE  BEGIN      END       COMMENTS
07       0511 UT    2 3 1994   3 3 1994   9 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
08       2338 UT    9 3 1994  10 3 1994  13 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
09       0208 UT   18 3 1994  18 3 1994  22 3 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric
10       0044 UT   31 3 1994   3 4 1994  14 4 1994 Magnetic and Ionospheric

SIGNIFICANT EVENT SUMMARY NO             TIME           DATE       COMMENTS
None Issued.

SWF WARNING NO            TIME           DATE
None Issued.

DATE OF ISSUE    TYPE OF ALERT
04 Mar                Magnetic
08 Mar                Magnetic
09 Mar                Magnetic
09 Mar                Magnetic
10 Mar                Magnetic
11 Mar                Magnetic
13 Mar                Magnetic
13 Mar                Magnetic
16 Mar                Magnetic
22 Mar                Magnetic


DATE           SWF BEGIN-END (UT)
None issued.
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Recorded Message      tel: [phone]      |AUSTRALIA

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Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:47:43 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: License Time For 1a Element?
To: [e-mail]

In article <2nrv3j$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>However since the changing of the 610 form which DOES differentiate
>(yay finally) between Technicians and Technician Plus, you
>will get Technician Plus licenses.

Has the FCC actually said this?  I hadn't heard, and I thought the entire
reason for not printing a new license was that it would make too much
paperwork and slow everything down.  However, I would be interested in knowing
for sure...(and not just some guesses because of the new 610)



--
Will Turner,  N0RDV      ---------------------------------------------
[e-mail]     | "Are you going to have any professionalism, |
[e-mail]    | or am I going to have to beat it into you?" |
[e-mail]    ---------------------------------------------

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Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:42:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <$[e-mail]>, <2nr3qv$[e-mail]>, <2nrojc$[e-mail]>i
Subject : Re: Amateur Forwarding Rules Ammended

[e-mail] (Stephen C. Trier) writes:


>The FCC document posted made fleeting reference to the difficulty of
>authenticating messages.


>A one-time post under a fake call is going to be extremely hard to
>trace.  My job is in networking -- I've traced e-mail forgeries other
>our local net and the Internet.  It is difficult.  In amateur radio,
>the problem is worse because of the mobility of hams.


The implication is that if the originator cannot be tracked down, I
will get the blame for his message. That is neither fair, nor legal. I
don't believe it would stand up in court. A one time offense WOULD be
hard to trace...but then why try. If it happens more than once, it is
a problem. It's like the occasional slip of the tongue, or any other
one time offense. It happens. So what. That doesn't mean it is "okay".
It just means that it is one of those times that it happens and
nothing can be done about it. On the other hand, the repeat offender
is going to be easier to find and filter. Let's face it, ANYONE can
put someone else's call in his TNC and say whatever he wants. That
doesn't mean that SOMEONE ELSE should be made responsible for his
actions when no one knows who it is.

This is a bad rule. It should be beat to death! I think the ARRL has
once again let us down. As many before me have asked, where are they
when they are needed?

I just realized, this has a perfect parallel. If the person who shoots
someone bought his gun by using false information when filling out his
gun registration, should the dealer be held responsible? I think not.
Yes, some idiot relative, looking for revenge, will suit, but the
dealer didn't break any law by using what information he was presented
with to sell the gun. If a station presents me with his call, who am I
to question whether it is his or not, unless it is obvious?

The real question is, what is your purpose (not you personally, I know
you didn't agree either), to make SOMEONE pay for the offense, or to
FIND THE OFFENDER AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? The answer is
obvious, and blaming the sysop will not accomplish it.

73, Gary

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Date: 5 Apr 94 17:41:37 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <2nn8qb$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>om
Subject : Re: Ham radios on planes - Definitive answer

Scott Statton ([e-mail]) wrote:

: ...
: Under no circumstances should you operate a cellular mobile
: telephone while aloft.  The frequency reuse only works (and I use
: the vaguest sense of the word "work") when your car stays on the
: ground.  Going up to 5,000 feet would cause your signal to swamp
: every cell-site in a major metropolitan area, and is expressly
: forbidden in the appropriate FCC regulations.

An interesting story I just happened across in the NASA ASRS (Aviation
Safety Reporting System) "CALLBACK" newsletter:  The pilot of a
commercial airliner (not reported which or what kind) had all nav and
comm radios fail shortly after takeoff.  He had the flight attendant ask
if any passenger had a cellular phone.  After finding one, he called the
tower and coordinated his return that way.  Probably would've timed out
a ham autopatch, though...

-Paul C.

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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:57:50
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ccm.hf.intel.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2nhujs$[e-mail]>m
Subject : Re: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!

In article <2nhujs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Richard Furuta) writes:

>I find the hams-on-Usenet lists extremely *useful* and am glad they
>are posted here with regularity.  The charter of rec.radio.info
>suggests that material posted to rec.radio.info should also be posted
>to another one of the rec.radio groups so limiting it to
>rec.radio.info would raise opposition.  Whether or not this is a
>reasonable charter is the topic of a different discussion.

I think that is the main problem.  Cross-posting such lengthy articles is just
a pure waste of bandwidth.  IMO, r.r.i is the place it should be.  Lets change
the rules.

I do not want Mark to feel his work is not appreciated, because this IS a very
valuable reference, but then so is the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and I wouldn't
want to see that posted here either.  It would be nice if Mark's info were on
a Telnet database server, like a callsign server.  That way you could do a
quick look-up of other hams email addresses by name or callsign.



Brett Miller N7OLQ                  [e-mail]
Intel Corp.
American Fork, UT

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